Al Gore - Cars, Climate and the Clean Coal "Unicorn"

Newsweek has a new interview with Nobel Prize winning Former Vice President Al Gore, and they cover some interesting ground, including the auto industry bailout, climate change reactions around the world and the myth (it doesn't exist!) of clean coal.
As far as the car makers go, Al puts the blame squarely on the lame, outdated and lazy leaders who resisted new technology for so long.
So what now? Al says full speed ahead to plug in hybrid electric vehicles. No screwing around this time, and no getting complacent when oil prices go down.
In the interview, Al talked about taxing gas and carbon, but avoiding adding to the burden on the poor and middle class tax payer, as well as the concept of "tax what we burn, not what we earn." That would certainly get people to start paying attention to their energy consumption!
Regarding climate change around the globe, Al says (again) that as soon as the U.S. takes some real steps to fight climate change, the rest of the world will follow. China and India always use our lack of response as an excuse for inactivity. That's an easy one to fix.
My favorite part of the interview was when Al called shenanigans on "clean coal" aka the unicorn of alternative energy. The technology doesn't exist! We keep building coal burning plants and promising to retrofit them "someday" when the science catches up with our intentions.
As Al says "We cannot allow an illusion to be the basis of a strategy for human survival."
What can you add to that? He's a greenius.













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12-05-2008 @ 9:52PM
David Lewis said...
If you want to know the state of the science on carbon capture and storage, the so-called "clean coal" Gore is so opposed to, try reading the I.P.C.C. Special Report on Carbon Capture and Storage. This is the same IPCC that won all the Nobel prizes for doing the same thing as Gore, i.e. raise awareness about climate change.
They take a completely contradictory line to what Gore is promoting. They say the technology is ready to go. The last research that needs to be done is to build a number of full scale sized plants to fully prove out the costs and see if there are any problems with the scale. Otherwise they believe that electricity can be produced for around 6 - 7.5 cents a kw/hr compared to 5 cents a kw/hr for a coal plant without carbon capture.
Obama had a plank in his platform stating he would make sure five full scale coal fired plants using carbon capture would be built. If Gore has his way, these will never see the light of day. What is happening here? If you study what Gore is saying, after you get through the sound bites where he wants you to take away his clean coal doesn't exist line, you get to where he says more research should be done. But he's confusing the issue, as the research is just to go ahead and see what its like to build a number of full scale plants. It isn't like this is still far out lab stuff where its all a gleam in someone's eye.
Gore is way off base here. This is not how he won his Nobel.
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12-19-2008 @ 1:23PM
Carney said...
It's unfortunate that Gore has seized on hybrids as the savior - he's totally overlooking a much more obvious and effective alternative.
Hybrid capacity adds hundreds of pounds of weight (redundant second electric engine, enormous battery), substantially reduces available volume for passengers or cargo, and worst of all, costs THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS EXTRA per vehicle.
And what to we get for all this? Just a few more miles per gallon of oil, while keeping our transportation fleet neatly locked in to petroleum fuel only, and only slowing down the galloping rate of growth of oil demand.
That's working hard for not much benefit.
Instead we should work smart.
The real solution is to mandate that all new cars sold in America (not just made, so as to include the foreign companies) have flex fuel capability, able to burn not just gasoline, but also alcohol fuel whenever they can find it.
Adding this capability is much less onerous. It only involves using better materials in the fuel tank and fuel line, adding a sensor to determine what the fuel mix (gasoline v. alcohol) currently is, and some different software for the electronic fuel inejctor. That's it! And it COSTS ONLY $100 PER CAR when part of the original design and installed at the factory.
Making flex fuel a standard component, like seat belts, means that from only 3% of cars on the road being alcohol capable now (and even that is several times more than the over hyped hybrids), we'll go to 100% of each year's produciton being alcohol capable. In 3 years that's 50 million cars on the road being alcohol capable.
Right now very few gas stations offer alcohol, but with all new cars being able to have it, the market for it will exist.
Especially because alcohol fuel is CHEAPER. Drop the tarrifs on Brazilian ethanol and the price will drop like a stone, far below gasoline. Methanol is even cheaper than that. Best of all, because ethanol crops can be grown anywhere and any kind of biomass without exception (including trash, sewage, weeds, crop residues, and more) can be turned into methanol, no one can do an OPEC and corner a big chunk of the market and throttle production to jack up the price.
Consumers will know with confidence that at least the alcohol fuel will be cheap in the future no matter what the economy and OPEC do. That increased stability and confidence will also help the economy a lot.
How is all this relevant to greens? Unlike gasoline, alcohol fuel:
-is not a carcinogen or mutagen;
-biodegrades quickly (a day or so) into safe components if spilled from a tanker ship/truck or leaked from an underground storage at a gas station rather than lingering in the environment (the Exxon Valdez is still killing wildlife);
-burns clean, emitting no particulate matter (smog) or CO2 (global warming!!!!)
Gore needs to use his large megaphone to push for flex fuel.
Is it ideal? No, but it's surprisingly effective and a has huge potential for little effort. Why not do it??
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12-31-2008 @ 11:37AM
Carney said...
Correction for the record: using ethanol is no NET increase of CO2, and the same is true for most methanols as well.
12-19-2008 @ 1:23PM
Carney said...
Oh, I almost forgot - methanol can be made from coal.
THAT is clean coal, folks. No CO2 emissions, just clean alcohol fuel.
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12-31-2008 @ 11:41AM
Carney said...
Again, to clarify: using ethanol means no additional CO2 emissions, and that's often true of methanol as well, when it comes from natural gas that would otherwise be flared, or from biomass such as weed plants, sewage, trash, crop residues, etc.
Converting coal to methanol, I believe, does add CO2 however. Still, no sulfur, no particulate emissions, etc. And overall an alcohol economy would add far far less CO2 than our current petroleum driven one; and cultivating plants and crops for alcohol has a global cooling effect.